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But but but @NateSilver538 said the Mueller Report doesn't matter it doesn't matter! https://t.co/fbOAlJsuAl
— Expand the Court (@ProChoiceMike) April 20, 2019
I disagree w Warren on a number of issues and statements she has made, but I am 100% behind her on the need for impeachment to begin. Dems not holding Trump accountable will depress their base, they aren't getting the vaunted wwc back again anyway. Do the right moral/legal thing https://t.co/uepYwczFsT
— Marcus H. Johnson (@marcushjohnson) April 19, 2019
https://twitter.com/sacr3dcycl3s/status/1119333372268961792
https://www.reuters.com/video/2019/04/19/trump-approval-drops-after-mueller-repor?videoId=540001684
https://graphics.reuters.com/USA-TRUMP-RUSSIA-POLL/010091JB28J/Mueller%20Investigation%20Report%2004%2019%202019%20TRENDED%20PID.pdf
Thinking impeachment is a political loser requires assuming there’s a large group of voters who think Trump is innocent and being framed by the Deep State yet they’re really on the fence about voting for him in 2020 and a trial laying out his crimes would make them support him.
— Brando (@Brandossius) April 19, 2019
Finally someone-warren-is talking about something other than political expdiency
He even argued that impeachment must be a bad idea as the GOP keeps bringingit up
@JoyAnnReid Joy I saw Congressman Sean Maloney on tonight-he's awful-consdescending, rude. His political calculus is spotty but what he misses is the Rule of Law-if you don't impeach Trump you've normalized his illegitimate 'Presidency'
— Expand the Court (@ProChoiceMike) April 20, 2019
He was very condescending to Joy Reid saying 'I'm not getting through to you' We need to get through to HIM. Call his office
— Expand the Court (@ProChoiceMike) April 20, 2019
Warren gets to key point: normalizing Trump’s corruption, criminality and casual disregard for norms of the presidency will do lasting damage to our institutions and our democracy https://t.co/qRXPMY9OCm
— Ben Rhodes (@brhodes) April 19, 2019
@DavidJollyFL recovering GOPer says it: do the Dems really want history to render a tougher judgement to Bill Clinton than 'President Trump'?
— Expand the Court (@ProChoiceMike) April 20, 2019
Get out of my head Charles Blow-that's been my ideal scenario for two and a half years
— Expand the Court (@ProChoiceMike) April 19, 2019
Get out of my head Charles Blow-that's been my ideal scenario for two and a half years
— Expand the Court (@ProChoiceMike) April 19, 2019
“There is a political risk for Democrats,” Rep. Joaquin Castro tells @wolfblitzer about impeachment. “There is a greater risk to the country in doing nothing.” He says though that first the House should take other investigative steps, including bringing in Bob Mueller
— Manu Raju (@mkraju) April 19, 2019
This is just such a bizarre view of politics. You can use political power to force other actors to react and in the process that might produce the consensus you are looking for! https://t.co/E2baefhMpq
— b-boy bouiebaisse (@jbouie) April 18, 2019
Impeachment proceedings are the trial we have available for a sitting president. The Mueller Report offers evidence that makes them not just logical but necessary.
I appreciate Senator Warren's leadership here. None of us WANT to do this. But we must. https://t.co/3Cl8yVKynZ
— Joy Allen (@joyeallen) April 19, 2019
But but but @NateSilver538 said the Mueller Report doesn't matter it doesn't matter! https://t.co/fbOAlJsuAl
— Expand the Court (@ProChoiceMike) April 20, 2019
Some parts of this are simple:
The Mueller Report and James Comey’s testimony under oath both document Trump ordering illegal prosecution of political opponents.
That is huge.
Comey and Sessions resisted.
If Trump gets away with it, what happens if there’s a next time?
— Ari Melber (@AriMelber) April 19, 2019
Amen. In truth Castro's words are a little slippery-he's equivocating he's saying it's reasonable but he's on House Judiciary he gets a vote.
— Expand the Court (@ProChoiceMike) April 19, 2019
Warren-Castro 2020
— Expand the Court (@ProChoiceMike) April 19, 2019
"Impeachment is not a snap of the fingers producing an instant result. It is a process of hearings in which officials present evidence of crimes and deliberate in a public forum, removed from media bias."
— Sarah Kendzior (@sarahkendzior) April 19, 2019
https://twitter.com/_ElizabethMay/status/1119335658588385281
https://twitter.com/iamideclair/status/1119355375919091712
Will Congress (yet again) duck and bob and weave, or will the first branch actually take some responsibility for doing its job?
@WalshFreedom poses the question… https://t.co/doMHYB3PO6— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) April 19, 2019
A lot of folks put up the false choice of impeachment or policy. Warren is strongest on policy AND she gets that policy is important but so is the Rule of Law
— Expand the Court (@ProChoiceMike) April 19, 2019
Elizabeth Warren 2020 I've been with Kamala but this move by Warren is very strong. She already has the best policy agenda now she's showing she also understands need to uphold the Rule of Law https://t.co/ZaDrEnknIP
— Expand the Court (@ProChoiceMike) April 19, 2019
Assuming you don't care about Rule of Law and Precedent-thereby legitimizing everything Trump has ever done and normalizing a rigged election. And if Trump were leaving in 2020 why would there be more reason to impeach him then?
— Expand the Court (@ProChoiceMike) April 19, 2019
Much stronger case for impeachment and removal from office when the president is a lame duck and voters have no recourse. https://t.co/Dnu2DTdo0c
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) April 19, 2019
https://twitter.com/MichaellW56/status/1119363775730155520
With all the panicking over and the bashing I’ve done of the MSM they now get it.
All that said, I agree with @KenDilanianNBC (and others): "the report details plenty of collusion, defined as two sides acting out of mutual interest"
And that's what informs this @nytopinion piece that @jgeltzer and I just wrote:https://t.co/cqLgSGesv0
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— Ryan Goodman (@rgoodlaw) April 19, 2019
Yep even Ken Dilanian gets it now.
The question now is when do the Democratic leaders get it?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/there-is-no-vindication-for-trump/2019/04/18/ea0828cc-6220-11e9-bfad-36a7eb36cb60_story.html?utm_term=.85b226284fd6
True but do the Dem leaders also want to move on?
But here's what DOESN'T work: Saying "it's not worth it," or "the next election will settle it," or "it will energize Trump's base" or "w/o bipartisan support it's a nonstarter."
At some point, Ds must engage on whether an inquiry is merited, or not. 2/2https://t.co/tFAiFiSoGG
— Greg Sargent (@GregTSargent) April 19, 2019
https://twitter.com/ssamcham/status/1119256983469740032
Even if it's a really stupid or offensive message-it usually is-they do stick to it and eventually the MSM comes around to treating it like a serious issue that must be addressed
— Expand the Court (@ProChoiceMike) April 19, 2019
You know what a fan I am of the Republicans but in all honesty 1 thing they are good at his message discipline-1 message that all their members stick to
— Expand the Court (@ProChoiceMike) April 19, 2019
Agree my objection is not necessarily that they need to formally begin impeachment inquiry NOW it's ruling it out at the onset. Do the preimpeachment first but don't preface it with there will never be actual impeachment
— Expand the Court (@ProChoiceMike) April 19, 2019
Here's the thing.
The Democratic approach to the impeachment inquiry question is a hopeless muddle right now.
It sounds political and lacks conviction.
If you want to say, "we're following up on the report, and we'll make the call soon," fine. 1/https://t.co/tFAiFiSoGG
— Greg Sargent (@GregTSargent) April 19, 2019
"the report details plenty of collusion"
– @KenDilanianNBC"damning series of facts" on collusion@zackbeauchamp@AshaRangappa_ thread highlights counterintel issues
In NYT, @jgeltzer and I analyze very serious counterintel issues in Mueller report:https://t.co/cqLgSGesv0
— Ryan Goodman (@rgoodlaw) April 19, 2019
Colbert hits Trump after Mueller report: "Innocent people don't say 'I'm f-cked'" https://t.co/CMmpHDsUxc pic.twitter.com/BsU812ZNWs
— The Hill (@thehill) April 19, 2019
Several lawmakers said they had no clue why Hoyer went out and said impeachment was off the table. An aide said it was “off message.”
Others said they got no guidance from leadership about messaging the Mueller report even though everyone knew it was coming. https://t.co/Cxavcbc0Kb
— Sam Stein (@samstein) April 19, 2019
Democratic equivocation on launching an impeachment inquiry is creating a moral and political disaster, and it's untenable.
They *must* engage on the question of whether an inquiry is *merited* by Trump's known corruption and misconduct.
My new piece:https://t.co/3nOP5NVewu
— Greg Sargent (@GregTSargent) April 19, 2019
I’ve previously inveighed against the dangers of too much impeachment talk. But the time has come for the House Judiciary Committee to open hearings into Trump’s “high Crimes and Misdemeanors.” Let the facts drive the process. https://t.co/yagdD510F7
— Laurence Tribe 🇺🇦 ⚖️ (@tribelaw) April 19, 2019
"If Democrats don’t pull the country into a debate about impeachment, we won’t get a draw. We will get a debate about investigating the investigators and jailing Trump’s critics." https://t.co/sUnegIJawp
— Seth Fletcher (@seth_fletcher) April 19, 2019
Shambolic leadership on the question of impeachment puts us all at risk, @brianbeutler argues. https://t.co/xqUZOf8VCc
— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) April 19, 2019
Final sentence:
I’m a life long Democrat and have voted straight Dem all my adult life-I made one mistake in 1996 voting for Cellucci for Mass Gov when I was living there-and regretted it very soon-and I love the Democratic party.
But like the proverbial abused wife, you can’t save someone who won’t save herself. If the Democratic party fails here-thereby making teh failure of our system complete-then I’m sitting 2020 out. Probably I’ll vote in Hillary Clinton regardless of candidate.
You can’t save someone who wont save herself and in the end in such situations your attempts to support her are only enabling her own abuse.
So I wont’ be voting for the Dems in 2020 if they let Trump walk, if they prove he was right-he can shoot someone on 5th and Steny Hoyer will let him get away with it.
Because voting for them would only be enabling their 2nd class status and for their own good I’m not going to do that anymore. So they needn’t justapose impeachment to 2020 as no impeachment no 2020.
There’s two different gender divides in American politics-between male and female politicians but ALSO between Republicans and Democrats. As Michelle Goldberg puts it the Democratic Party is a Girl.
She argues The politicans of the Dem party-both male and female-are held to the tougher standards society imposes on women.
I agree-you can’t understand the gender divide of American politics without factoring not just the gender divide of individual politicans but also the gendered divide of the two parties.
Joy Reid-the Good Mother party; the GOP on the other hand is not Divorced Dad-as Michelle Obama’s rather inapt analogy put it-but rather the Abusive, Alcoholic Dad party of American politics.
The Dems are acting like the abused wife who only in learning more about her and her situation do you discover how complicit she herself is in her own abuse, and subordinated, second class status.
But the young politicans get it if the old fogeys don’t. AOC-Rashida-Ohmar.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george-conway-trump-is-a-cancer-on-the-presidency-congress-should-remove-him/2019/04/18/e75a13d8-6220-11e9-bfad-36a7eb36cb60_story.html?utm_term=.9fdc00dd244c
Disagree vigorously with Jamie Raskin
“We have to be playing offense for the American people at the same time that we are defending ourselves from a lawless White House; that’s challenging for us,” he said. “In Congress, we have to look at it both: [impeachment’s] legal meanings but also its political context because we do have other agendas we have to be advancing for the American people.”
I agree with Maxine Waters-the complacency of the Dem leaders must end. They are too comfortable with Trump’s abuse of power, his obstruction, his illegitimacy.
Passing meaningless legilsation that Mitch McConnell will table isn’t ‘offense.’ To the contrary the only thing the Dems can do that Mitch McConnell can’t table is impeachment. If they impeach Trump McConnell has to take it up. He will have to convene a trial for this illegitmate ‘president.’
Even if McConnell and Friends acquit him the process itself will hurt but Trump and his GOP protectors. I still don’t agree with the conventional wisdom that impeachment somehow hurts the Democrats politically I think it could do the opposite. But this is about more than mere political expediency it’s about what’s right.
Letting Trump off the hook here-effectively agreeing with him that he can shoot someone on 5th Avenue and get away with it is hardly ‘going on offense.’
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/democrats-say-trump-obstructed-justice-but-stop-short-of-calling-for-impeachment/2019/04/18/86d5b2a2-61fc-11e9-bfad-36a7eb36cb60_story.html?utm_term=.a2cd641109c2
ICYMI: My statement on the release of the redacted #Mueller report by AG Barr pic.twitter.com/b7yjKNTi8E
— Maxine Waters (@RepMaxineWaters) April 19, 2019
10. If Congress fails to initiate impeachment hearings then there is little to no hope that future presidents will act lawfully and in the best interests of We The People. Congress, if you’re listening, The People’s Ball is in your court. Please don’t fumble.
— Glenn Kirschner (@glennkirschner2) April 19, 2019
https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/add-your-name-now-to-demand-congress-impeach-trump
I will not vote for any 2020 Dem opposed to impeachment
— Expand the Court (@ProChoiceMike) April 19, 2019
The time for impeachment hearings is now! Members of Congress must join in co-sponsoring @RepRashida Tlaib's resolution to start an impeachment inquiry. The Mueller report is an impeachment referral and history will record how we respond at this critical moment. #TimeToImpeach
— John Bonifaz (@JohnBonifaz) April 18, 2019
One of today’s big takeaways from the Mueller report: Mueller gave Congress a roadmap to impeach President Trump for obstructing justice. Let’s hope Congress pulls the map out of the glovebox and gets on the road.
— Glenn Kirschner (@glennkirschner2) April 19, 2019
Thank you Rep. @AOC for signing onto @RepRashida's impeachment resolution, and setting an example for the rest of your colleagues.
Nobody *wants* impeachment proceedings. But when the president is this corrupt, it's a moral obligation. pic.twitter.com/jKDkkZCVka
— Need To Impeach 🍑 (@Need2Impeach) April 19, 2019
https://twitter.com/MsKadyCee/status/1118997352226934784
Trump says it’s ‘Presidential harassment’ ‘it should never happen to another President again’
At least he’s thinking about precedent-more than the Democratic leadership is doing.
Ed Kilgore misses the point
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/04/mueller-doesnt-immediately-improve-the-logic-of-impeachment.html?utm_medium=s1&utm_campaign=nym&utm_source=tw
https://twitter.com/MsKadyCee/status/1118997352226934784
This is a terrible precedent. It rewards the GOP for being so partisan-BECAUSE they are so partisan Trump won't be impeached. That's perverse incentives
— Expand the Court (@ProChoiceMike) April 19, 2019
Senior House Dem aide tells me the messaging from Dems is that Mueller needs to come to the Hill and that full documents are needed. Hoyer ruling out impeachment was "clearly off message."
— Sam Stein (@samstein) April 18, 2019
I mean Trump said his 'Presidency' was over after Mueller was appointed. He should have spoken to Steny Hoyer-he had nothing to worry about https://t.co/l9ex86794H
— Expand the Court (@ProChoiceMike) April 18, 2019
Per the #MuellerReport, the President indicated “This is the end of my presidency” when he received word that an independent counsel had been appointed. The President knows he shouldn’t be in office. He knows what he has done. We know what he has done. It is #TimeToImpeach.
— Congressman Al Green (@RepAlGreen) April 18, 2019
Again the new young Congresswomen get it unlike the old folks-accept Maxine Waters @RepMaxineWaters https://t.co/2ut4kze95C
— Expand the Court (@ProChoiceMike) April 18, 2019
The fact that McGahn disobeyed @realDonaldTrump and never executed Trump's order to fire Mueller is irrelevant to the requirements for Obstruction of Justice. You only need to "endeavor" to obstruct justice to commit the crime. https://t.co/COYtQZjJ5c
— Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) April 18, 2019
Dear @HouseDemocrats :
You told us to be patient. You told us to be cautious. You told us to wait for Robert Mueller.
Well, the time for waiting is over." #TimeToImpeach https://t.co/o6zRY21RiL
— CREDO Mobile (@CREDOMobile) April 18, 2019
https://twitter.com/michelleinbklyn/status/1118979991503613952
Dear @HouseDemocrats :
You told us to be patient. You told us to be cautious. You told us to wait for Robert Mueller.
Well, the time for waiting is over." #TimeToImpeach https://t.co/o6zRY21RiL
— CREDO Mobile (@CREDOMobile) April 18, 2019
Who cares about democracy? It's just 'kitchen table issues I tell you, kitchen table issues' Hitler's economy did well for awhile too
— Expand the Court (@ProChoiceMike) April 18, 2019
“The president has spent two years shouting No Collusion. This report makes clear once and for all that he was lying.”
— Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler) April 18, 2019
#Impeachment is the only exercise of constitutional power that would be a MEANINGFUL defense of the rule of law.
The #MuellerReport is a litany of corruption. Trump and his cronies are just getting started dismantling our democracy.
If Dems stand down, they are complicit.
— Peter Daou (@peterdaou) April 18, 2019
He’s right and I won’t vote for anyone complicit with dismantling our democracy.
READ @HouseJudiciary Chairman @RepJerryNadler on the Mueller Report: Even in its incomplete form, the Mueller report outlines disturbing evidence that President Trump engaged in obstruction of justice. Just imagine what remains hidden from our view.https://t.co/eTLiUCZioQ
— House Judiciary Dems (@HouseJudiciary) April 18, 2019
I mean I just don't understand Steny Hoyer. 30 minutes after we learn that Trump personally wanted to hack Clinton's emails Hoyer reassures him there will be no consequences? https://t.co/W3sbPPyE8p
— Expand the Court (@ProChoiceMike) April 18, 2019
And the active coordination of the Trump campaign-Roger Stone and Wikileaks, Flynn-Peter Smith-Trump himself asking for Clinton's emails
— Expand the Court (@ProChoiceMike) April 18, 2019
https://twitter.com/LPeterP/status/1118920080249643008
I mean 30 minutes after learning Trump obstructed justice and personally asked for Clinton's private emails Hoyer assures him there will be no consequences. Just hope this is not the sentiment of the entire Dem leadership
— Expand the Court (@ProChoiceMike) April 18, 2019
I have no fears about a backlash. I fear another stolen election. At the end of the day, this is what the impeachment clause is for. https://t.co/tAcxx4cCgH
— MJ (@princessmom122) April 18, 2019