387 Epilogue: Was Trump an Epstein Informant for Trumpland I mean the FBI?
Section One: Informant, Enabler, or Both? Trump, Epstein, and the Theater of Secrecy
Talk about the theater of absurd? When Mike Johnson recently-outed?-Trump as an informant on Epstein it strikes you that we have truly come full circle the last ten years-after all today is September 15, 2025 so just a month and 13 days short of nine years exactly since Comey’s unforgivable letter. Again regarding Comey we can say that it’s kind of fitting that he’s a Catholic as no one deserves centuries of purgatory more than he with the collateral damage of his awful decisions continuing to accrue daily.
In a sense what could be more apropos than that Trump was an FBI agent-after all they elected him. More on this below.
House Speaker Mike Johnson made an explosive claim about President Donald Trump Friday while talking to reporters at the Capitol.
Johnson was asked to respond to Trump’s recent comments on Jeffrey Epstein, the wealthy financier and convicted sex offender who died in a New York jail cell in 2019. On Wednesday, Trump called the ongoing Epstein saga “a hoax.”
Johnson was asked to respond to Trump’s recent comments on Jeffrey Epstein, the wealthy financier and convicted sex offender who died in a New York jail cell in 2019. On Wednesday, Trump called the ongoing Epstein saga “a hoax.”
“He was an FBI Informant to Try to Take This Stuff Down”-Moscow Mike Johnson September 5, 2025
What they’re saying:
“What Trump is referring to is the hoax that the Democrats are using to try to attack him,” Johnson said.
“It’s been misrepresented. He’s not saying that what Epstein did is a hoax. It’s a terrible, unspeakable evil; he believes that himself. When he first heard the rumor, he kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago.
“He was an FBI informant to try to take this stuff down,” he continued. “The president knows, and has great sympathy for the women who suffered these unspeakable harms. It’s detestable to him.”
Trump was an FBI informant in Epstein case, Speaker Johnson claims | FOX 4 Dallas-Fort Worth
Moscow Mike Johnson-he opposes Ukraine aid so surely Moscow likes him-later had to walk it back of course. No doubt the Russia House Trump Administration itself was freaking out over this-Trump’s the one who usually goes rogue forcing his GOP co-conspirators to scramble to keep up with the latest gaslighting. But no one expected this bombshell from Moscow Mike.
It’s the first time an official has claimed Trump was an FBI informant in the case. The White House has not commented on Johnson’s remarks. ”
As well they might-they were likely urgently calling Moscow’s office to figure out what the hell he was talking about, No doubt the hissed at him to FIX IT. And so he did:
Speaker Johnson walks backs comment that Trump was an ‘FBI informant’ in Epstein case
Section: Don’t Be Too Quick to Assume Trump Wasn’t an FBI Informant However as What’s Needed is Forensic Courage
Indeed in this vein I think of the streamer Destiny. There’s a lot that Destiny gets right. He rightly called out the tendency of so many institutional liberals-from Ezra Klein, to Pod Save America, to Bernie Sanders, to Hutch-to cuck out post the tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Section: Nuance Required: Kirk’s Murder Was Wrong but the Subsequent Canonization is Appalling and Worrisome
We’ll have more to say about this below but Kirk was anything but the unambiguous free speech advocate he’s been described as post his violent murder. He’s actually from a long history of “reactionary pluralism” that Karl Popper warned of 80 years ago.
Destiny has spoken with a level of moral and intellectual clarity few have post Kirk’s death. Fellow liberal Dylan Burns actually an excellent video yesterday about the appalling calls to arrest Destiny and Hasan. yet he also mildly criticized or at least questioned why Destiny was being so polemical in hi rhetorical framing.
Calls to Arrest Destiny and Hasan in Shooting Fallout
Section In the Time of Trumpian Reactionary Pluralism How is it Possible to Still Believe in Hanlon’s Razor?!
While there are a lot of reasons to like Dylan Burns starting with his courageous reporting on behalf of the brave Ukranian people in a war zone he has a tendency towards “Occam’s Razor” thinking and even worse Hanlon’s Razor-
“Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”
I mean at time like this-Trumpian Reactionary Pluralism unfortunately Dylan’s tendency towards being trusting and seeing the best in people can be a liability. This has been a stumbling block for both Savvy Centrist pundits as well as liberal institutionalist types for years-during the Mueller years you’d often here pundits opine that Trump was too incompetent to imagine him being involved in some deep conspiracy with Putin.
But if you understand anything about Donald Trump it explodes this myth of Hanlon’s Razor. It’s clear that Trump is very stupid-one “conspiracy theory”-that’s actually not a conspiracy theory it’s a simple conjecture that I myself for a long time dismissed but have become blackpilled recently is that Trump may be illiterate.
CODA: True story I recently had a therapist through BetterHelp who became furious when I suggested Trump MIGHT not be able to read wrongly declaring it a conspiracy theory when it’s not it’s either true or false but not a conspiracy. Trump didn’t conspire not to be able to read anymore than FDR conspired to be in a wheelchair.
While this unprofessional therapist thought the idea of “suggesting the President can’t read” is unpossible in fact 43 million Americans can’t read above a third grade level, 54% can’t read above a sixth grade level.
US Literacy Rate 2025 – Updated Statistics & Data
Is it really hard to believe Trump is one of these many millions of Americans-as he says “I love the poorly educated” as he should seeing as they elected him.
CODA: Ironically leftists like Vaush tend to hate the movie Ideocracy-as they focus narrowly on structural material economic forces as the explanation of everything-but it becomes clearer everyday that movie was truly prophetic
Idiocracy – Official Trailer 2006 – YouTube
With apologies to Howard Stern Trump not Stuttering John is the genuine Hero of the Stupid.
If you want to delve deeper into why I think he may really be illiterate ask yourself this question: when has Trump ever read anything in public? Pete Davidson’s anecdote was what first opened my eves to this very real possibility
Donald Trump CAN’T Read says SNL Pete Davidson to Opie – @OpieRadio
Then there was the time Keir Starmer handed Trump a letter from King Charles. Starmer was clearly politely waiting for Trump to start reading the letter-out loud-but Trump simply scanned it and zeroed in on the signature-“that’s a signature.”
When Starmer explicitly called on Trump to read it Trump begged off asking Starmer to read it-which he then did. Then there was Trump’s court appearance in 2016 where Trump demurred on reading a transcript placed in front of him claiming he didn’t have his glasses. Ok-but when has Trump EVER been seen worn glasses?
Section: If the Russian Fable Showed you can Have Hot and Cold From One Mouth Why Can’t Trump be Stupid and Evil?
We’ll get into this more below but watch the video of Katie Johnson’s deposition testimony-or what Trump wrote in his love letter to Epstein in 2003 and tell me he’s not also evil-as evil as he is stupid and he’s very stupid.
Katie Johnson’s full testimony of 2 11 16
Section: What Destiny Understands is it’s not Just What you Say but How you Say it
Destiny has often been criticized for being a Debate Bro-a debate mercenary who will argue any side of an issue to showcase his rhetorical and logical skills. I would argue that this notion that he’s a pure sophist in the level of the Greek Sophists isn’t entirely true as he clearly has moral values and principles. But there’s something kind of admirable about the rhetorical skills of sophistry and Destiny’s rhetorical precision is undeniable and elite. There are times when a sharper, polemical tone-where you are not so charitable-are essential. Especially today in Donald Trump’s Orwellian States of America.
Section: However, Even Destiny at the End of the Day is Still Too Institutionalist for This Moment
To have any hope of understanding Trumpian Reactionary Plutocracy of today a healthy dose of cynicism is essential. While Dylan tends to be too trusting-how is it possible to believe in the best in Trump? He has no best.. Destiny gets how awful Trump and his GOP co-conspirators are but he’s got institutionalist brain on conspiracies-he’s another institutional liberal who thinks “conspiracies don’t happen.”
And so I was very impressed by his appearance on Times Radio yesterday but then he hit a wall when the British interviewer asked him about Epstein. Destiny laughed and admitted on this he has a very contrarian boring view-that there is no Epstein list. He does agree Trump should be pushed on it as he promised to release it-Pam Bondi had declared it was on her desk in February.
But he was dismissive of the idea that there was any big conspiracy. He said this even as he acknowledged that Trumpland the FBI redacted his name over 100 times. I don’t understand how you square Trumpland redacting his name from the files over 100 times with the premise that there are no files or there’s nothing important in the files. First he starts pessimistically opining that the Epstein scandal is over as the conservatives have chosen to move on and they “100% control what we talk about in the United States.”
If that’s true why do anything-if they 100% control the narrative why bother at all? If you really believe this-I’m not at all sure Destin really believes this as he engages prolifically in public political commentary. And to the extent that you believe that the GOP controls the narrative isn’t that the challenge? To change that? It should be the agenda of all #ResistanceLibs or anyone who wants to “crush the Infamous thing” as Voltaire said the infamous thing being Trump’s reactionary Orwellian reign. This can be achieved to the extent we change the fact that they control the narrative. Beyond that it’s not at all clear the discussion about Epstein is over as the Times host pointed out to him.
“Well, Stephen, this is life in DC, right? A lot has happened uh in the week lead in the week past since the Epstein birthday book was uh made public by the oversight committee.”
Exactly then there was the press conference by the Epstein victims along with the appearnance of the Congressmen and women supporting the discharge peitition-the Democrats and Thomas Massie-he and Rho Kihanna’s bill-then MTG and Lauren Boehbert. While it’s pretty tough to be more cynical about MTG, Boebert and Nancy Mace it is notable that most of the GOP supporters of the petition are female.
Indeed the petition now has 217 names just one short. Wether or not we get the final vote-it’s remained a live issue going by youtube.
Destiny goes onto say that Trump is basically like a YouTube streamer and that as a streamer “if you just keep streaming through it or you keep creating YouTube videos, basically people forget in like a week, even if it eels like the end of the world.”
Here it’s hard not to think Destin is speaking from his own experience with online scandals.
Starting at 9:39
Trump is ‘hiding something’ about Epstein and here’s why | Destiny
He argues that Trump is “very attention focused” and so there’s no time to ever focus on an particular thing as there’s always the next thing there’s always the next thing within three to four days later. 9
10:47
He argues by then the conservatives tell people to stop caring about it. Then he argues liberals at that point don’t want to keep talking about it either as they don’t want to be accused of “Trump Derangement Syndrome”
Uh why the hell not? It’s the most defensible syndrome imaginable. What needs to be explained is how so many don’t have derangement syndrome with Trumpian fascism. But it is true as a working description of how the elected Democrats often act. Like after Barr did his fake exoneration letter about the Mueller Report the Dems did expend some energy forcing Barr to release the full report after about a month of going back and forth. But then that was all she wrote. As I noted in Chapter Work the Refs Schiff made a scinlitating and impassioned speech “I don’t think it’s ok” that essentially the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to steal the 2016-I’m paraphrasing but that’s what it amounted to-but then that was it-Schiff was done. Steny claimed to read the entire 448 page report in 45 minutes and declared there was nothing in there worth impeaching.
But while this is how the Democrats often act the point is it’s been disastrously ineffective. But what’s clear is that one reason the GOP controls the narrative is the Dems abdicate any attempt on their part to control it.
But let’s get to the meat regarding Destiny’s view on Epstein starting at 11:17:
“Um my position on this is very boring. I’m a very non-conspiratorial person.”
With all Destiny’s many intellectual gifts and self evident charisma this is a problem. And when you think of any kind of major #ResistanceLib types on youtube this is a recurring deficit of so many otherwise very talented people. We already discussed Dylan above-at least Destiny’s takes pleasure in being a contrarian which is in a way what makes his own admission that “I’m a very non-conspiratorial person” even more maddening. His evident contrarian nature gives you hope but paradoxically he seems to see being this kind of institutionalist “conspiracies don’t happen” Occam’s Razor cum Hanlon’s Razor as a kind of contrarian position.
But it’s not clear how you can truly take on the current Orwellian cum Trumpian reactionary oligarchy while being a “very non-conspiratorial person.” Regarding Dylan above I’d argued that to the contrary paradoxically in this Trumpian age cynicism is a feature not a bug while lacking cynicism is a major hindrance.
Similarly being non not to say anti conspiratorial is similarly a self imposed encumberance.
Section: The Trumpian cum Putin cum Netanyahu cum Epstein Age Requires not Institutional Trust but What you Might Call Forensic Curiosity if not Strategic Paranoia
Back to Destiny-he says he read the whole FBI report which is totally believable as he’s very well researched-starting at 11:21:
“I read the whole FBI report when it came out. I don’t think there was a huge Epstein conspiracy”
He declares he doesn’t believe there was a “grand Epstein list” I mean what makes a client list “grand?” He acknolwedges that the FBI redacted Trump’s name 100 times-he just assumes all the mentions of his name are innocent? Then why wouldn’t Trump release it? He also doesn’t seem to understand the scope of Trump’s relationship or that Katie Johnson accused both Trump and Epstein of raping her when she was 13 in Epstein’s Ny mansion in 1994
This is just not the time for blithe intuitionalist trust-like when Chris Cuomo assumed that Bill Barr told the truth in his “summary” of the Muller Report because-gee, he’s the AG he wouldn’t lie!
Again while Destiny has many rhetorical gifts and is very well researched as Nietzsche noted knowledge in itself is a passive thing it also depends on what you do with it. Again:
Destiny’s rhetorical precision is undeniable, but his institutionalist lens creates a blind spot that’s hard to ignore in the age of Epstein, Trump, and redacted realities. He’s a master technician of debate—quick on his feet, airtight in structure, and often devastatingly effective. But when it comes to conspiratorial architecture, he defaults to skepticism that borders on dismissal. And in today’s America, that’s not just a philosophical gap—it’s a strategic liability.
To be sure we’re not asking for wild speculation—but for forensic curiosity. The kind that doesn’t flinch when the facts get murky, or when power hides behind redactions. Destiny’s refusal to engage with the Epstein saga—especially the depth of Trump’s ties, the timing of the prosecutions, and the institutional shielding—isn’t just a missed opportunity. It’s a failure to recognize that conspiracy isn’t fringe anymore—it’s infrastructure.
Section: How is it Possible NOT be Cynical Much Less Conspiratorial Today?
I don’t know but somehow many people do it. Again Dylan is too good faith to imagine the level of sociopathy at the heart of Trump and his GOP co-conspirators. Destiny knows very well how sociopathic they are but this facile insistence that “conspiracies don’t happen” greatly limits how effective he can be in truly pluming the depths of the sociopaths.
Section: Russia Russia Russia
Indeed despite how strong Dylan’s support of the Ukranian’s fight against Russia’s agression is he too dismisses out of hand that there was “any big conspiracy” between Trump and Russia. Really? Destiny too doesn’t believe in a “grand conspiracy” between Russia and Trump.
Like Keith Olbermann asks if Trump was a Russian agent what would he be doing that he’s not doing now seeing as he has now allowed Putin to send drones to both Poland and Romania the last week. Which shows y et again that no one has been wrong more than the Russia hacks-like Hasan and his “Realist” buddy John Mearsheimer
America’s leading ‘realist’ keeps getting Russia wrong
I mean Trump has done everything Putin could have ever wanted in his wildest, fascist, dreams, he’s all but dismantled US hegemony but we still don’t know if there was anything going on between Trump and Russia-has neither Destiny nor Dylan read the Mueller Report which listed many attempts of the Trump campaign 2016 to collude with Russia’s interference?
Did they miss on July 26, 2016 where Trump explicitly called on Russia to hack Clinton’s emails-“Russia if you’re listening?”
If even a prolific #ResistanceLib like Destiny or a journalist whose showed such inspiring support for Ukraine-I mean does Dylan think Putin is above trying to interfere in a US election? Does Destiny think Trump is above such chicanery?-what hope does the #Resistance have?
Indeed a very smart leftist streamer like Vaush also has hangups about this naive premise that “conspiracies don’t happen” based on his Marxist illusion that reduces everything to material interests and forces, I mean sure but he underestimates how powerful partisan interests namely Republican partisan interests have been in the last 57 years of US politics-though even if you focus narrowly on the material forces of the powerful obviously they will often have incentive to conspire and gaslight. But despite Vaush’s “structuralist” baggage at least he acknowledges Russia and Trump colluded though he doesn’t necessarily understand how central that is to everything thats happened in US politics the last 10 years-or more-I’d argue that Russia’s influence begun to be felt in 2012 with the start of all the leaked hacks-Snowden and Assange. Snowden is now a Russian citizen-how’s that for having a material interest-namely Putin’s material interest in the damage Snowden’s leaks inflicted on US intelligence.
CODA: I have come to think as a liberal rather than a socialist that Marxist theory can be very valuable analytically as a heuristic tool but Vaush tends to talk as if things like race, gender and sexual orientation are deriviative issues-that “capital” is agnostic on these issues. This ignores what a relentlessly reactionary agenda that GOP has had-and that they are winning, as the Voting Rights Act was gutted in 2014, and abortion rights have been rolled back-in the Post Roe world women have the rights of chattel slavery in many parts of the country-where a rapist has more rights than a 13 year old rape victim.
It’s also true that many “mere social issues” have deeper economic implications for marginalized groups that White dudebro progressives glibly ignore a la Cenk Ugyur-see his debate with Francesca mocked the idea that she would have a problem sitting down and “having a beer” with people who want her to bleed out in parking lot. With allies like this who needs Republicans?
(74) Francesca’s HEATED Debate With Cenk Uygur On Strategy Under Trump – YouTube
The problem with Vaush’s narrative is that it veers towards the Duopoly Canard that marginalizes just how important a factor Republican hyper partisan interests have been in the rise of the current Trumpian reactionary oligarchy we are currently suffering so much from today.
The duopoly canard leads to apolitical and amoral nihilism-after all if both parties are identical why engage in politics at all? This is what has happened to much of the left since Bernie’s defeat in 2016. Not Vaush so much at least not during the Biden years though post Trump’s win-he doesn’t explicitly subscribe to the nihilistic doomerism of much of his fellow leftists-though he seems much more reluctant to criticize these fellow leftists than he was during the Biden years. But implicitly if you take this kind of one dimensional Marxist line he’s sometimes referred to, to it’s logical conclusion you miss major dimensions of today’s dystopian US politics.
Bottomline:
Destiny’s institutional trust—his instinct to dismiss anything that smells like conspiracy—makes him a brilliant debater but a limited analyst in a world where the institutions themselves are compromised. You’re not looking for someone who believes every theory—you’re looking for someone who can interrogate the architecture of secrecy without flinching.
And that’s what #ResistanceAmerica demands:
- Not just logic, but forensic courage
- Not just debate, but epistemological reckoning
- Not just skepticism, but strategic paranoia grounded in pattern recognition
Destiny could be a powerful ally—but until he’s willing to look under the hood of institutional narratives, he’ll be debating the surface while the engine rots underneath.
Section: Keith Olbermann is Awesome Except Does He Actually Believe the Warren Report?
There are many things I love about Keith Olbermann but first and foremost is that unlike so many of his former mainstream media colleagues he’s not complacent he’s the opposite of complacent. He’s also the opposite of uncynical. Excellent! He’s pointed out that if Trump were a Russian agent what would he have done for Putin that he hasn’t in fact done the first nine months of Trump 2.0 The Absolute Immunity Edition?
And yet, and yet, in one of his digressions he often makes late in his Monday show in explaining the motivation of Kirk’s apparent shooter-though many seem to be forgetting he’s innocent until proven guilty-he referenced Oswald-and much as it pains me to say it seems to subscribe to the Warren Report and believe Oswald was a Lone Nut.
KILMEADE: KILL THE HOMELESS. AND THE WORST ATTACKS ON KIRK? BY FUENTES AND LOOMER – 9.15.25
Now to lay my cards on the table I’m not a physics expert nor an engineer. So my focus of interest in JFK assassination theory LOL isn’t the issue of the angle of the gun-did he really shoot him from the back-is that possible? Was there a second shooter? Could Oswald have really done it? Was he even on the third floor when it happened?
Section: Never Forget Trumpland the FBI Wrote the Warren Report
Not that these are bad questions just not my primary focus. My primary focus is Oswald himself. His story that he was a lone nut trying to make a name for himself doesn’t add up. He was in the US army as a teenager and would loudly proselytize his belief in Marxism, Lenin, the USSR, Fidel Castro in the late 1950s-the McCarthy Era and yet he wasn’t put in the brig? Then he allegedly defects to the USSR all by himself and is able to come back into the country with no problems and was never a person of interest for the CIA or J Edgar Hoover’s FBI? Something is missing. My strong suspicion is that Oswald had intel ties. Now the question is which intel ties? While man have raised the possibility he was linked to the CIA-and I’m not ruling this out in fact it’s quite possible-the one thing to remember is that J. Edgar Hoover essentially wrote the Warren Report-the Warren Commission had to clean it up and refine it but the narrative was his own brainchild.
Just like when debating wether Trump is totally incompetent or completely corrupt-why not both? Similarly why couldn’t Oswald have had ties with multiple intel agencies-both the CIA and FBI probably had a relationship with him.
CODA: Similarly while I’m not dismissing the questions of physics around 9/11-can a plane really collapse those towers, could there have been explosives, how did WTC Tower 7 fall-my primary focus is Dick Cheney’s shootdown order. Like while he says he shot down Flight 93, Norm Mineta-the Transportation Secretary-testified that he believes he overheard Cheney saying NOT TO shoot it down. And whatever you want to believe here there’s the further inconvenient question-why was Cheney making this decision at all as he wasn’t in the chain of command?
FN: See “Angler” book on Dick Cheney.
Amazon.com: Angler: The Cheney Vice Presidency eBook : Gellman, Barton: Kindle Store
What’s clear is it’s hard to be #ResistanceAmerica’s strongest solider while taking the Warren Report at face value. Without a certain amount of “strategic paranoia” any analysis will be stuck at the surface level which is what most liberal and leftist analysis of Trumpism is. Again he who controls the past controls the present, he who controls the present controls the future. The Right knows this unlike most leftists and liberals.
Section: Was Trump an Epstein Informant for the FBI?
I don’t know. But unlike the Savvy centrist media or institutional liberals from Ezra Klein to alas even Destiny I see no reason to assume Mike Johnson merely meant to clear his throat and by mistake falsely claimed this. Where did this entire premise come from? I doubt it came from Johson himself-he’s not smart enough for that. He’s an order taker. Someone put this idea in his mind-he might have bolloxed it-but he was referring to something I suspect. Again I said something maybe not exactly what he said.
First and foremost of course Trump is the FBI’s guy. They elected him after all, if not for the Comey Letter we’re not so far down shit’s creek without a paddle. So the idea that Trump could have informed for them at one point seems rather apt. Again I don’t know the specific answer to this though the question might be quibbling over a detail.
After all Seth Abramson argues persuasively that Trump was who got him arrested back in 2007 due to their feud over the Les Wexner property in Florida.
Donald Trump has lied about the reason for the end of his friendship with Epstein so many times—and major media has been so solicitous of his lies, publishing them far more frequently than the truth, though the truth is widely known—that Americans could be forgiving for believing the president’s concocted tale. That tale claims that after seventeen years of being Epstein’s wingman and co-conspirator (see infra) as the two engaged in sex games across the Eastern Seaboard, Trump suddenly banned his best friend from Mar-a-Lago and stopped speaking to him because Epstein—who had apparently been recruiting sex slaves directly from Mar-a-Lago for years—“acted inappropriately” toward the daughter of a fellow club member. This tale is nonsense.
First, despite being a “fixture” at Mar-a-Lago, there have been frequent claims—most notably by Team Trump—that Epstein wasn’t a “member” at Mar-a-Lago, making it impossible for Trump to revoke a membership that did not exist. In those accounts that make the contrary claim, namely that Epstein was indeed a Mar-a-Lago member, the key revelation is that the only known incident in which Epstein was accused by Trump of acting inappropriately occurred in 2007, after Trump and Epstein hadn’t been speaking for three years and more than two years after Epstein had come under investigation in Florida for sexual misconduct. That investigation was a situation that Trump would have been well aware of (including Epstein’s 2006 indictment) not just because they still ran in the same social circles, but more importantly because Trump, as an act of personal revenge related to a failed real estate deal, was likely the one who dimed out Epstein to launch that investigation in the first instance (see infra
Trump’s Long History With The FBI: In 1981, He Offered To “Fully Cooperate”
If that is true Trump may or may not have technically met the definition of “an FBI informant” but it’s kind of a distinction without a difference or at least it’s far from the most important question in this case. Perhaps he was “an informant” for the Palm Beach Police rather than the FBI though Trump had a long time relationship with the FBI too.
Basically Trump out of his typical vindictiveness bought out Wexner’s home from under his best friend Epstein-Trump loved nothing more than screwing over his best friends like sleeping with their wives, etc. Epstein had wondered who gave him the $40 million as he knew Trump didn’t have it.
In any case, what we know is that Epstein was “threatening” Trump about the source of the money for the Wexner Estate, and Trump didn’t want to reveal the sourcing or remove his bid.
According to Epstein—and candidly, consistent with the timeline of events described above—Trump got the jump on those potentially ruinous threats from Epstein by contacting the Palm Beach Police and anonymously reporting that “young” females had been seen coming and going from Epstein’s home with suspicious regularity. (In addition to the above reminder about Trump’s history of diming people out, we must now add, given that the call to the PBP was made anonymously, that Trump also has a long, storied, and often unintentionally hilarious history of making calls in character; with this in mind, nothing about the PBP getting a sudden tip about Epstein’s home in the midst of an unprecedentedly brutal Trump-Epstein kerfuffle would have been at all unlike Trump’s established modus operandi).”
CODA: Of course Trump would sell the Wexner property a few years later for a 120% profit-to a Russian oligarch. But sure “that thing about Trump and Russia is a madeup story”-as Trump is always whining.
Then of course, it was Trump’s DOJ that arrested him in 2018. While there is a lot of rightful outrage over the sweetheart deal Epstein got in 2008-Trump’s own Labor Secretary Alex Acosta had given him that sweetheart deal under the premise that “Epstein belongs to intelligence.”
UPDATE: Ironically Kash Patel-the current Director of Trumpland the FBI blamed Acosta by name in his Senate hearing yesterday for the “original sin” of the Epstein case.
Patel says “original sin” in Epstein case was Acosta’s handling
But another very interesting question is why did the federal government in 2018 suddenly reneged in their admittedly outrageous sweetheart deal from 2008. Whitney Webb as we saw in the prologue argues persuasively it’s hard to believe the federal government suddenly was appalled by it’s own appalling 2008 deal with the infamous child trafficker.
UPDATE: New testimony from Acosta that he didn’t speak to any of the victims in 2008 but did speak to Epstein’s attorney’s-including Ken Starr who was so allegedly morally indignant over Clinton’s affair with Lewinsky.
However what she glosses over is that in 2018 Trump was in control of the federal government. Indeed, the entire MAGA movement’s obsession with Epstein has always suffered from this blind spot-if there was a federal government conspiracy to murder Epstein in 2019 Trump controlled that federal government. As to why Trump’s DOJ decided to renege on the 2008 deal-if you agree with Webb it wasn’t because of it’s Kantian moral sense-what is the most likely motive-cuo bono who benefits? Remember also that Trump’s own version of Executive Power means that all the federal agencies don’t work for the American people but for him-the DOJ is his own private law enforcement agency. While the institutionalist instinct will naively assume it was the decision of principled institutionalists within the DOJ is that really what Occam’s Razor would suggest?
As Michael Wolff documents Epstein was pretty nervous after Trump’s election knowing how vindictive he was and how potentially dangerous Epstein was to Trump-Bannon had told Wolff, Epstein was the biggest threat to Trump.
Section: Oops Trumpland the FBI Does it Again
Wether or not Trump was ever literally “The FBI’s Epstein informant” it’s an inconvenient fact that it elected Trump in 2016 and has only become more pro Trump since-even before Kash Patel took it over. Now that Patel runs it it’s literally Trump’s own personal appendage.
The FBI went through the Epstein files and redacted Donald Trump’s name, according to the “FOIA Files” newsletter by reporter Jason Leopold, published in Bloomberg Friday.
It was previously reported (in a July letter to the Justice Department from Dick Durbin, the Democratic Senate Judiciary Committee ranking member) that, under Attorney General Pam Bondi’s direction, FBI Director Kash Patel ordered around 1,000 FBI personnel to sift through more than 100,000 Epstein-related documents throughout two weeks in March. Working on 24-hour shifts, the staff were reportedly instructed to “flag” records mentioning Trump, prompting Durbin to ask the DOJ: “What happened to the records mentioning President Trump once they were flagged?”
FBI Reportedly Redacted Trump’s Name in the Epstein Files | The New Republic
Let’s just digest this for a moment-there’s so much to digest! This wasn’t a small job-1000 FBI agents sifting through over 100,000 Epstein documents over two weeks in March. The Trumpland FBI agents worked 24 hour shifts. Again the fact pattern was-in February DOJ AG Pam Bondi had declared the Epstein client list was on her desk and she was going to release it ASAP. In March 1000 GOPland FBI agents worked 24 hours per day for two weeks to flag any mention of Trump. This certainly suggests they knew there were a GREAT MANY mentions of Trump to replace that level of manpower-“your tax dollars at work” indeed.
So the idea that Trump was an FBI informant on Epstein doesn’t sound to hard to fathom as it’s always the FBI-the elected him and moved heaven and earth to protect him on his relationship with Epstein. Yet even Destiny assumes there’s nothing in these files? If there weren’t then 1000 FBI agents wouldn’t have had to work 24 hour shifts for two whole weeks. When did Pam Bondi realize this kind of manpower would be necessary you wonder-did she realize this when she beat her chest about the files in February?
With Trump it’s always Epstein and it’s always the FBI. They elected him, they failed to prepare for January 6, they wailed like 7 year old girls when their agency finally belatedly took back all the sensitive and classified information Trump stole on his way out the door in January 21 and now they did a forensic blitzkrieg to hide Trump’s illicit history with the most notorious child trafficker.
Section: When the FBI Wasn’t Doing 24 Hour Shifts to Redact any Mention of Trump in the Epstein Files it was Employing Trump Loyalty Tests to New Recruits
While in a sense the FBI has always been Trumpland as this books makes pretty clear in the Kash Patel era the it’s become more itself than ever before-in a sense Kash Patel is the FBI’s moment of self realization. Now explicitly agents must declare undying fealty not the law or the people but personally to Donald Trump. To be sure many were always there-Kash Patel claims people at the agency are always thanking him and while he’s a pathological liar this is one thing I believe. Nevertheless there were also many professionals at the agency that construed their role as being more than Trump’s glorified private police force.
Before he was briefly named the FBI’s acting director early this year, Brian Driscoll says, he got a call from a Trump administration official who peppered him with a series of pointed questions that appeared to be a loyalty test.
Among them: “Who did you vote for?” “When did you start supporting President Trump?” “Have you voted for a Democrat in the last five elections?” “Do you agree that the FBI agents who stormed Mar-a-Lago … should be held accountable?”
Driscoll, promoted to the temporary post despite refusing to answer most of the questions, detailed the episode in a federal lawsuit Wednesday in which he and two other former senior FBI officials allege they were ultimately fired by Kash Patel, the eventual FBI director, for unlawful and politically motivated reasons that often appeared to be in response to social media posts from far-right critics.
“Patel not only acted unlawfully but deliberately chose to prioritize politicizing the FBI over protecting the American people,” the lawsuit states. “His decision to do so degraded the country’s national security by firing three of the FBI’s most experienced operational leaders, each of them experts in preventing terrorism and reducing violent crime.”
Fired FBI leaders were subjected to loyalty tests, lawsuit says – The Washington Post
While you hope the lawsuit succeeds how much faith can you have? While the case has legal merit that only matters if they have a judge with integrity rather than another Trump hack-you know, like John Roberts.
The last few days Kash Patel has not exactly acquitted himself well in his hearings before the Senate then House Judiciary Committees. He tried the semantics game in his confrontation with Adam Schiff in the Senate-he didn’t fire all these agents “wholly” because they were involved in investigations of Trump just in part. But Driscoll makes it very clear that even if it were “in part” it was a big part of why they were let go:
Driscoll, who had worked at the bureau for two decades, recounted in the lawsuit that he refused to answer many of those questions from Paul Ingrassia, a then-29-year-old political appointee who identified himself as a “White House-DOJ transition liaison,” because talking politics on the job was inappropriate and could violate a federal law barring such conversations by government employees.
According to the lawsuit, then-acting deputy attorney general Emil Bove later told Driscoll that even though he had “failed” the vetting interview, he would still vouch for his character and push for him to serve in a top role until Patel was confirmed by the Senate.”
Mighty White of him-it just underscored how understaffed they were due to the Trumpian crackdown.
Driscoll’s month-long tenure came to be defined by his resistance to Bove’s demand to fire eight senior FBI executives and identify “the core team” behind the Capitol riot investigations. Driscoll refused to hand over the names, prompting Bove to accuse top FBI leaders of “insubordination.”
In response, Bove demanded the names of every FBI agent or employee across the country who had touched any of the Jan. 6, 2021, cases. A brief standoff ensued, ending when Driscoll eventually provided the Justice Department with a list of more than 5,000 bureau personnel, identified only by employee ID number.
Driscoll assumed another senior role once Patel arrived, but he alleges in the lawsuit that he was fired in August when he refused Trump administration orders to fire a military veteran and pilot who flew the FBI’s private plane because he was involved in the 2022 raid of President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago property in Florida.
While Patel played semantical games with Schiff-‘I didn’t fire them wholly because they investigated the President just in part; the biggest part but…’ Driscoll reveals Patel admitted that he had to fire all of them because Trump demanded it wether it was fair and legal or not.
“Patel then stated that his own job depended on the removal of the agents who worked on the cases against the President, regardless of whether the agents chose to work on those cases or not,” the lawsuit states.
Marcy Wheeler not surprisingly also has some thoughts on the lawsuit-here she references a prett striking part of Driscol’s speaking complaint:
Which is why my favorite line is the one describing Kash acknowledging that these firings could lead to his deposition: “[Kash] again commented that he knew the nature of the summary firings were likely illegal and that he could be sued and later deposed.” [my emphasis]
Kash Patel Yapped His Mouth with a REAL Feeb – emptywheel
This on top of when he told Driscoll that it didn’t matter if the people fired were appointed to Trump cases against their will he just had to do the firings to keep his job.
Section: Epstein, Epstein, Epstein
Then there was his rather astonishing testimony on Epstein where he claimed that Epstein didn’t traffic girls to anyone but himself:
What to Know About Kash Patel’s Epstein Files Hearings | TIME
Talk about not passing the laugh test-no wonder he spent most of the hearing trying “insult himself” out of the Epstein mess.
Patel can’t insult his way out of Trump’s Epstein mess | Opinion
But of course this was strategically misleading as was the rest of his testimony-“strategically misleading” is a pretty nifty summation of his entire tenure-as Driscoll’s testimony aptly documents-he knew the firings weren’t legal but he also knew he it was the only way he could keep his job.
Coda:
Just call him Kash “Stuart Smalley” Patel: I’m Dumb Enough, I’m Corrupt Enough, and Darn it all President Trump Loves Me
Post by @did:plc:4a6onroxd32n4vkmhnn4hod2 — Bluesky
Thomas Massie on X: “I told Director Kash Patel that the FBI has names of 20 men to whom Jeffrey Epstein trafficked women and girls. This basic fact seemed to surprise him. Why? Is the FBI withholding those names to protect the President’s rich and powerful friends? Release the Epstein files. https://t.co/YaeGBJ0Uj8” / X
I doubt it really surprised him-he’s clearly doing a coverup along with the over 100 times Trump’s name appeared that was redacted as we saw above. He knows perfectly well that all this has to be withheld from the public to save Trump’s authoritarian ass. Who do you think gave the order for the FBI to put 1000 agents on 24 hour shifts for two weeks to edit out every mention of Trump’s name?
UPDATE
Petition on Epstein Files Gains Enough Signatures
Section: Kash Patel Declares There was Only One Person on the Epstein List: Epstein
Patel did make major news in his disastrous performance rather ludicrously claiming the only person on the Epstein list was Epstein.
Just call him Kash “Stuart Smalley” Patel: I’m Dumb Enough, I’m Corrupt Enough, and Darn it all President Trump Loves Me
Post by @did:plc:4a6onroxd32n4vkmhnn4hod2 — Bluesky
(76) Why Kimmel’s Axing Makes Epstein Coverage Riskier Than Ever – YouTube
Tara Palmieri notes that Alex Acosta claims to have never spoken with the victims-as he stated reportedly to Congress last week-though he did speak with lead attorney for Epstein-namely Ken Starr-clearly he was really concerned with sexual assault that’s why” he locked Lewinsky in a hotel room for 24 hours and threated to put her and her mother in prison for 27 years in the course of entrapping her into a perjury charge.
Regarding Patel’s quite preposterous claim that there were no clients-is Patel claiming even Maxwell wasn’t involved in the sexual assault?-Palmieri points out that the Epstein prosecutor in 2008 had wanted to prosecute 35 men who allegedly engaged in Epstein’s sex with minors scheme.
(76) Why Kimmel’s Axing Makes Epstein Coverage Riskier Than Ever – YouTube
Palmieri rightfully notes the entire Savvy mainstream media has ignored this story. She argues it’s fear-the same reason ABC was so quick to drop Kimmel. She points out all the relentless sanding down with caveats and qualifiers the media has brought to reporting. Indeed I’ve noticed post Kimmel’s firing even Chris Hayes has been doing a lot of this relentless caveating the last few nights. He even buried an important guests’ point-who’s about to be deported-by the qualifier that’s “there’s no evidence Epstein was in Mossad”-just some other Israeli leaders. Well his relationships with folks like two former PMs certainly at least makes the idea he could have also had links to Israel intelligence more not less plausible. The very fact he had such close ties with Ehud Barak is evidence he had ties to Mossad-it’s one pierce of circumstantial evidence-not enough by itself true but it’s evidence-so Hayes is wrong to say there’s NO evidence.
I mean some of the fractured syntax that the mainstream media has been engaging in the last week so tortured it’s barely English-like David Axelrod’s long winded word salad that while Charlie Kirk said some things that some groups may have found hurtful things and that some of these things may have been racist Kirk was most certainly NOT a racist and Axelrod said he didn’t want to detract from the such a moment-that job was left to Trump who told Kirk’s widow he disagrees with her-hate hates his enemies.
Section: Katie Johnson the Missing Link Between Epstein and Donald Trump?
As she is the one victim who claims and testified to this under oath in court that both Epstein and Trump raped her in Epstein’s Ny mansion in 1994. Above I’d argued that the more you study the facts the more plausible it is that Trump is illiterate. Similarly the more you learn the more clear it is that Trump was not just stupid but evil-the stumbling block is the mainstream media tries to claim these two character traits are somehow mutually exclusive.
Seth Abramson wrote a book about Trump called Proof of Cruelty. Certainly there’s all the proof you need in Katie Johnson’s allegations. Based on her testimony the first time Trump saw this 13 year old girl he demanded that she come over to him and give him a hand job. That was the first time. And it just got worse from there finally culminating in him asking her to engage in a rape fantasy-the last time they interacted according to her allegation he raped her. Certainly if her allegations are true and I do find them credible he is an extremely ugly, cruel, and despicable man.
How else do you describe someone slaps a 13 year old girl in the face for crying-because of the sexual assault he’s inflicting on her? you might wonder though if he ever thought of his own daughter-how would he feel if someone did that to Ivanka? Turns out he has thought of that-he actually told Johnson during the rape fantasy that she reminded him of Ivanka. So she’s potentially the missing link.
In this vein Tara Palmeri had a very interesting interview recently with Michael Cohen-someone as I discussed in Chapter Michael Cohen, I’m fairly skeptical of.