Other Bavarian Relatives
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When looking for the census records of the sisters of Barbara (Kraus) Kirmse, a group of people in the 1870 US Census were observed to have immigrated from Bavaria, This chapter identifies census records for these families from Bavaria who might be related.
1870 US Census – Cinque Hommes (Longtown), Perry, Missouri
Information Source
Year: 1870; Census Place: Cinque Hommes, Perry, Missouri; Roll: M593_796; Page: 327A; Image: 662; Family History Library Film: 552295
Renada and Margaretha
The families of Barbara (Kraus) Kirmse sisters, Renada (Kraus) Krauss and Margaretha (Kraus) Schuetz, were living very close to each other (Dwellings 263 and 265) in 1870 according to the above census record.
| Name: | Renard Krause | ||||||||||
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| Age in 1870: | 34 | ||||||||||
| Birth Year: | abt 1836 | ||||||||||
| Birthplace: | Bavaria / Bayern | ||||||||||
| Home in 1870: | Cinque Hommes, Perry, Missouri | ||||||||||
| Race: | White | ||||||||||
| Gender: | Female | ||||||||||
| Post Office: | Perryville | ||||||||||
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| Name: | Margaret Schuetz | ||||||||||
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| Age in 1870: | 28 | ||||||||||
| Birth Year: | abt 1842 | ||||||||||
| Birthplace: | Bavaria / Bayern | ||||||||||
| Home in 1870: | Cinque Hommes, Perry, Missouri | ||||||||||
| Race: | White | ||||||||||
| Gender: | Female | ||||||||||
| Post Office: | Perryville | ||||||||||
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Renada Kraus and Margaretha Kraus immigrated from Hutschdorf, Bavaria as was determined in the Renada (Kraus) Krauss (1836 – 1910) and Hutschdorf Letter chapters. Their husbands, George Krauss and George Schuetz are listed in the census report as also being from Bavaria.
Schuetz Neighbors
| Name | Conrad Schuetz | ||||||||||
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| Age in 1870 | 41 | ||||||||||
| Birth Year | abt 1829 | ||||||||||
| Birthplace | Bavaria / Bayern | ||||||||||
| Home in 1870 | Cinque Hommes, Perry, Missouri | ||||||||||
| Gender | Male | ||||||||||
| Post Office | Perryville | ||||||||||
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The census record is not correct as to the birthplaces of Conrad Schuetz’s children. They were both born in Missouri as was determined in chapter Conrad Schuetz (1829 – 1881).
| Name: | John Schuetz | ||||||||||||
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| Age in 1870: | 32 | ||||||||||||
| Birth Year: | abt 1838 | ||||||||||||
| Birthplace: | Bavaria / Bayern | ||||||||||||
| Home in 1870: | Cinque Hommes, Perry, Missouri | ||||||||||||
| Race: | White | ||||||||||||
| Gender: | Male | ||||||||||||
| Post Office: | Perryville | ||||||||||||
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The above John Schuetz and wife Elizabeth are listed with three children. But, John and Elizabeth were married 6 Jan 1865. So son John who was 12 in 1870 was the child of either John or Elizabeth from a previous marriage. Conrad and George are children of their union. Note that the first names of Schuetz’s children also appear as the names of members of the other families.
Other Schuetz Families
A search for Schuetz names of people born in Bavaria in the 1870 Census found two additional families in Missouri.
John Schuetz in Saline Township
In the nearby the Saline Township, there was a John Schuetz and family.
| Name: | John Schuetz | ||||||||||||||||||
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| Age in 1870: | 54 | ||||||||||||||||||
| Birth Year: | abt 1816 | ||||||||||||||||||
| Birthplace: | Bavaria / Bayern | ||||||||||||||||||
| Home in 1870: | Saline, Perry, Missouri | ||||||||||||||||||
| Gender: | Male | ||||||||||||||||||
| Post Office: | Perryville | ||||||||||||||||||
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Information Source
Year: 1870; Census Place: Saline, Perry, Missouri; Roll: M593_796; Page: 363A; Image: 734; Family History Library Film: 552295
John Schuetz is the only member of the family from Bavaria. Given the age of John’s oldest child, Mary Schuetz, is 14 and that she was born in Ohio, this John Schuetz immigrated to the USA from Bavaria before 1856.
George Schuetz in St. Louis
In St. Louis, Missouri, there was a George Schuetz and family.
| Name: | George Schuetz | ||||||||||||||||
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| Age in 1870: | 44 | ||||||||||||||||
| Birth Year: | abt 1826 | ||||||||||||||||
| Birthplace: | Bavaria / Bayern | ||||||||||||||||
| Home in 1870: | St Louis Ward 3, St Louis,Missouri | ||||||||||||||||
| Race: | White | ||||||||||||||||
| Gender: | Male | ||||||||||||||||
| Post Office: | Saint Louis | ||||||||||||||||
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Information Source
Year: 1870; Census Place: St Louis Ward 3, St Louis, Missouri; Roll: M593_812; Page: 232B; Image: 472; Family History Library Film: 552311
This George Schuetz and his wife Barbara Schuetz are from Bavaria. What is intriguing about this family is first names of the children are in the Schuetz/Krauss families listed in the Cinque Hommes, Perry County, Missouri census report shown at the beginning of this chapter.
Observations
Several observations can be made about possible relationships between the families.
Immigration Dates
The immigration dates of the Schuetz families in Cinque Hommes, Perry County, Missouri was determined as follows:
- Conrad Schuetz immigrated from Hutschdorf, Bavaria before 1885 as will noted in the Conrad Schuetz (1829 – 1881) chapter.
- George and Margaretha Schuetz immigrated in 1862 as was noted in chapter George and Margaretha (Kraus) Schuetz Immigration.
- George and Renada Krauss immigrated in 1866 as was noted in chapter George and Renada (Kraus) Krauss Immigration.
- John and Barbara Schuetz apparently immigrated about 1867-1869. From the 1870 US Census, son Conrad age 3 was born in Bavaria, hence John and Barbara Schuetz immigrated to the USA in 1867 or later. And, since son George age 1 was born in Missouri, the John and Barbara Schuetz immigrated to Missouri by 1869.
It appears that the families did not immigrate to the USA at the same time. Conrad Schuetz was the first to immigrate. The others followed at later dates and according to the Cinque Hommes, Perry County, Missouri 1870 US Census, and settled close to Conrad.
According to the 1870 US Census, The other two Schuetz men in Missouri immigrated to the USA from Bavaria as follows:
- John Schuetz in Saline Township. Given the age of John’s old child, Mary Schuetz, is 14 and that she was born in Ohio, hence this John Schuetz immigrated before 1856.
- George Schuetz in St. Louis. Given the age of their oldest child, Andrew Schuetz, is 16 and that he was born in Missouri, hence George Schuetz and his wife Barbara Schuetz immigrated before 1854.
First Names
Note how many people have first names that appear in other Schuetz families than their own. While not definitive, the possibly does exist that first names were given in honor of common ancestors.
Birth Dates
The ages and birth dates of the Schuetz men in Cinque Hommes, Perry County, Missouri 1870 US Census, were:
- Conrad Schuetz – Age: 41 – Born: 12 February 1829 (See also Chapter Conrad Schuetz (1829 – 1881))
- George Schuetz – Age: 35 – Born: about 1835
- John Schuetz – Age: 32 – Born: about 1838
The ages and birth dates of the other two Schuetz men in Missouri are as follows:
- John Schuetz in Saline Township – Age: 54 Born: about 1816.
- George Schuetz in St. Louis – Age: 44 Born: about 1826.
The birthdates of Conrad, George and John Schuetz from Cinque Hommes would be consistent with being brothers. And, even the George Schuetz in St. Louis could be an older brother.
Further Research
While family relationships cannot be determined from the above information, there appear to be possibilities. Several people did immigrate from Hutschdorf, Bavaria. A search of the Hutschdorf Lutheran Church parish records could possibly provide documentation of the suspected relationships.
Words of Caution
It is amazing that there were only five Schuetz families in Missouri who had immigrated from Bavaria at the time of the 1870 US Census. The above observations are largely based on census records which have many possibilities for misleading or incomplete information. Census takers may not have been given the correct data or they were sloppy in writing down the information. Transcribers could have mangled scripts, names and other data because of faded, damaged records. The assumption is made that all the children listed in the census records are the offspring of both listed parents – they however could the children of one of the spouses from a previous marriage.