Marriages
39
Marriage Summary
- Groom Name: Christoph Kirmse
- Groom Notes: house owner and citizen of Fichtenhaenchen, widower of his deceased wife.
- Groom Father Name: UNKNOWN
- Groom Father Notes:
- Groom Father From Where:
- Groom Mother Name: UNKNOWN
- Groom Birth Date:
- Groom Order of Birth: Child , Son of mother
- Bride Name: Justine Kratsch
- Bride Father Name: Michael Kratsch
- Bride Father Notes: deceased, gardner and citizen of Graasa
- Bride Father From Where: Großröda
- Bride Mother Name: UNKNOWN
- Bride Mother From Where:
- Bride Birth Date:
- Bride Order of Birth: Child 3, Daughter 1 of mother
- Marriage Date: 7 Jul 1829
- Marriage Place: Großröda, Sachsen-Altenburg, Thüringen, Deutschland
- Marriage Place: Monstab, Monstab, Großröda, Sachsen, Deutschland (Germany)
- Marriage Date: 14 Jul 1829
- Marriage Place: Rositz, Thuringen (Thuringia), Deutschland (Germany)
Marriage Records
FamilySearch – Monstab Marriage Record
| Name | Christoph Kirmse |
| Event Type | Marriage |
| Event Place | Großröda, Sachsen-Altenburg, Thüringen, Deutschland |
| Event Place | Monstab, Monstab, Großröda, Sachsen, Deutschland |
| Gender | Male |
| Spouse’s Name | Justine Kratsch |
| Spouse’s Gender | Female |
| Spouse’s Father’s Name | Michael Kratsch |
| Note | Taufen, Heiraten u. Tote 1809-1870 |
| Page Number | 47 |
| Church | Evangelische Kirche Monstab (AG. Altenburg) |
| GS Film Number | 001194426 |
Source Citation
“Deutschland, ausgewählte evangelische Kirchenbücher 1500-1971,” database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPJJ-483R : 11 November 2018), Christoph Kirmse and Justine Kratsch, ; Records extracted and images digitized by Ancestry.com; citing Marriage, Großröda, Sachsen-Altenburg, Thüringen, Deutschland, page 47, Staatliche archivverwaltung der deutschen demokratischen republik (Archives of the German Democratic Republic), Germany; FHL microfilm .
Ancestry – Monstab Marriage Record
| Name: | Christoph Kirmse |
|---|---|
| Gender: | männlich (Male) |
| Record Type: | Heirat (Marriage) |
| Marriage Date: | 7 Juli |
| Marriage Place: | Monstab, Sachsen (Saxony), Deutschland (Germany) |
| Spouse: | Justine Kratsch |
| Author: | Evangelische Kirche Monstab (AG. Altenburg) |
| City or District: | Großröda |
| Parish as it Appears: | Monstab |
| Page Number: | 47 |
| Name: | Justine Kratsch |
|---|---|
| Gender: | weiblich (Female) |
| Record Type: | Heirat (Marriage) |
| Marriage Date: | 7 Juli |
| Marriage Place: | Monstab, Sachsen (Saxony), Deutschland (Germany) |
| Father: | Michael Kratsch |
| Spouse: | Christoph Kirmse |
| Author: | Evangelische Kirche Monstab (AG. Altenburg) |
| City or District: | Großröda |
| Parish as it Appears: | Monstab |
| Page Number: | 47 |
Source Citation
Ancestry.com. Saxony and Thuringia, Germany, Lutheran Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1591-1875[database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016. Original data: Mikrofilm Sammlung. Familysearch.org
FamilySearch – Rositz Marriage Record
Record
Source Citation
“Deutschland, ausgewählte evangelische Kirchenbücher 1500-1971,” database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPJK-JHFK : 11 November 2018), Christoph Kirmse and Justine Kratsch, ; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Marriage, Rositz, Rositz, Altenburg, Thüringen, Deutschland, Rositz, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
Ancestry – Rositz Marriage Record
| Name: | Christoph Kirmse |
|---|---|
| Gender: | männlich (Male) |
| Record Type: | Heirat (Marriage) |
| Marriage Date: | 14 Juli |
| Marriage Place: | Rositz, Thuringen (Thuringia), Deutschland (Germany) |
| Spouse: | Justine Kratsch |
| Author: | Evangelische Kirche Rositz (AG. Altenburg) |
| City or District: | Rositz |
| Parish as it Appears: | Rositz |
| Page Number: | 56 |
| Name: | Justine Kratsch |
|---|---|
| Gender: | weiblich (Female) |
| Record Type: | Heirat (Marriage) |
| Marriage Date: | 14 Juli |
| Marriage Place: | Rositz, Thuringen (Thuringia), Deutschland (Germany) |
| Father: | Michael Kratsch |
| Spouse: | Christoph Kirmse |
| Author: | Evangelische Kirche Rositz (AG. Altenburg) |
| City or District: | Rositz |
| Parish as it Appears: | Rositz |
| Page Number: | 56 |
Translated Rositz Marriage Record
- GROOM: Christoph Kirmse
- BRIDE: Justine Kratsch
- MARRIAGE DATE: 18 Jul 1829
- WHERE: Evangelische Kirche Rositz (AG. Altenburg).
- TRANSLATION: Christoph KIRMSE, house owner and citizen of Fichtenhaeynchen, widower of his deceased wife, was married with Justine KRATSCH, daughter of the deceased Michael KRATSCH, gardner and citizen of Graasa, the 1st daughter and 3rd child of his wife.
Source Citation
Rositz parish records, 1809-1875. Translated by Jerrery-Bernhard Lensman from LDS Films 1194434-35 & 1194454.
Children
- DAUGHTER: Eva Kirmse (5 Apr 1830-7 Feb 1904)
- DAUGHTER: Maria Kirmse (8 Mar 1832-30 Jan 1913)
- SON: Julius Kirmse (6 Feb 1835-12 Dec 1915)
Discussion
The marriage of Christoph Kirmse + Justine Kratsch is recorded both in the Monstab church records and again in the Rositz church records. Apparently they were first married in the bride’s church, Monstab. Then either they were remarried a few days later or the marriage was just recorded in the groom’s church, Rositz.
Having the marriage of Christoph Kirmse and Justine Kratsch recorded at both Rositz and Monstab, Großröda helps clarify the origin of Justine and her father, Michael Kratsch. Justine Kratsch is listed as being from Grossa in the Rositz records – marriage and birth/baptisms of her children. Apparently Grossa was short hand for Großröda.
A question is – was the Rositz record just a recording of the Monstab marriage? Or, were Christoph and Justine remarried in Rositz?
